Rated 4 out of
Nelson the Instructor
Does work with Grigri 2 but its a tight fit :/
As the title suggests, it does work with the GriGri 2 but it does take some finicky hand work. The manual says it should work with it but its a bit clunky getting in, hence the 4 stars. I do however enjoy the freedom of having a locking carabiner that is quick to open. With a normal screw gate carabiner, you are able to disable the lock and just open and close it at will, but you are not able to with this. That can get some what annoying but if you are using it for belaying or as an anchor device, I feel like it works fine.
Its definitely not something everyone will like but its worth trying out. It serves it purpose and is an interesting new innovation to climbing for sure, weather it gets popular or not.
Date published: 2015-02-08
Rated 5 out of
GriGri 1/2 compatibility: Why would Grivel would design a product based on a single item of Petzl's? (For what it's worth- it fits fine on a Petzl MicroTraxion. :)
This is an interesting design; the ridges on the gates are smaller than you'd expect so it will take some practice to get used to. The yellow-gate is ridged on each side just past the middle; the black-gate has very small ridges on each side of the tip.
It doesn't appear to use springs of any sort, but instead an internal spring-metal flexes and moves it back into place like a wire-gate does. It closes with a satisfying 'snap' and the tolerances at the pins seem very small which is good for keeping stuff out of the moving parts. There is not much lateral (side to side) play on the gates, but there is a little and based on the size of the keyhook nubs and the cutouts it seems perfectly fine.
The wide-end is nicely wide and radius'd.
There are odd, very small, "flat spots" on the internal sides both at the top and bottom. All three of mine have them in the exact same spot. The color and coating match the rest so it's not post-manufacture damage. It's likely a tool-holder mark from production; it's not deep, sharp or otherwise worrisome.
It's a heavy brute. Heavier than you'd expect. On the plus side, it's rated to 30kN (major axis) when closed. That's crazy.
I haven't had any field-time with it yet but it seems like a neat design, has won a number of awards and the positive reviews online seem warranted from a first look.
The one-handed design (and the zero-risk of it coming unscrewed, such as on a leg-redirect while rappelling) is the key though, offset by the weight. If you can deal with the weight (most people can, you just wouldn't want to rig a full big-wall rack with nothing but these) then I would recommend taking a hard look at 'em.
Date published: 2015-04-28
Rated 3 out of
Matt in Gunks
Not sized for a Grigri!
This is a beautifully made piece of Italian equipment and I look forward to using it as a belay biner with an ATC this summer -- but I will not be able to use it this winter at the gym (or anytime at all) with my Grigri 2 because it is practically impossible to get the Grigri on or off the yellow gate. The biner hole for the Grigri seems to be the identical size as the widest part of the yellow gate (the black, inner gate is a total no-go), which means that with some twisting and turning and pressure, the Grigri can be got onto the biner but the difficulty is such that no one would ever want to do this repeatedly while at the gym or crag. Once on the biner, the Grigri is a tight fit but is afforded enough free movement for comfortable usage. It seems dumb for Grivel to have designed this biner without taking into account the size of such a popular piece of gear as the Grigri 2, along with whatever other belay devices will also prove problematic.
As a note: The reason the yellow gate is a problem is because it is designed with flaring/bulging sides that provide ridges wider than the black gate so that one's fingers can grasp and thus open this outer gate. The black gate has similar flares/bulges at the very top (keyed) end of itself.
Date published: 2015-01-17