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Availability of a boat, plus skeg and rudder questions



My wife and I are thinking of buying two Delta 17 touring kayaks for use along the Maine coast where we live.  They look really nice, but we have never actually seen  and sat in one to see how it looks and feels and they are a lot of money.  When I go on the REI website, it looks like I can buy them and have the delivered to the North Conway, NH  store for pick up.  But it feels a bit risky to buy them sight seen and sit undone.   Is there a way to actually look at them and sit in them to get a better feel for the boats before ? committing?  I suppose we could "buy" them on line, go to the North Conway store and look at them when they arrive, and then not accept them if they are not a good match for our needs.  But I am not sure how that would work and if there is someone who could help us at the store.  

As an alternative, we could go to the Reading Massachusetts store if that makes things easier. 

So advice appreciated. 



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@FredClinton great question! The best way to get to "test" out a product that we don't carry in a specific store is to order it on, have it shipped to your local REI store, and stop in when it's arrived! If, for any reason you don't love what you bought, you're then already at the store and can easily facilitate a return or exchange. We hope you're able to get on the water soon!

At REI, we believe time outside is fundamental to a life well lived.

Thanks for the help on this.  Sounds like what we ought to do.  

Happy trails,





This is a follow up question.  REI sells the Delta 17 kayak and the specifications on the Delta website says a rudder is standard and a skeg is optional.  Can someone tell me how the skeg is install, whether it is needed on a kayak with a rudder, and whether REI can sell the skeg?


Thank you, 




@FredClinton Thanks for reaching out again!

A skeg is typically installed by running a line under the boat and connecting it to the skeg, which, in the case of the Delta Kayaks, is spring loaded. They also state that their skegs offer 'kink free' operation. REI does not sell the skeg, you would have to work with Delta Kayaks to order that item.

A rudder and a skeg are both designed to drop down and help you track in a straighter line when paddling your kayak in the wind. A skeg helps you track straighter by creating resistance in the stern of the boat equal to the resistance provided by the bow wave at the front of the boat. You can adjust the amount of the skeg you are using depending on how much the wind is affecting your ability to track in a straight line (known as wind cocking).

The rudder, however, moves side to side and compensates for the wind by turning the boat into the wind and creating a straight tracking line. A rudder is a much more intuitive way of tracking straight in open water and can also help you negotiate turns, particularly if you are new to open water paddling.

All of that is to say, if you have a rudder, you do not need a skeg. A couple of advantages to a skeg are that there are fewer wires to contend with (thus there is less likelihood that something can go wrong with the mechanism) and they do not create additional drag from the wind when not deployed (the rudder sits like a small sail on the stern of the boat).

If you have a lot of experience paddling in the ocean and the skills needed to maintain a straight line with a skeg it can be a great feature to have on your kayak. However, a rudder will give you a more intuitive function for tracking straight in the wind as well as providing assistance in turning if needed.

Hopefully this helps!

At REI, we believe time outside is fundamental to a life well lived.

Thanks for the advice. Very helpful.