@tadoerner I always carry my water proof NF Jacket but only bring the rain paints if it’s going to be very cold and rain is definitely in the picture, the rain jacket is ubiquitous and protects ‘layers’.

my REI Sierra classic convertible pants are worth their weight in gold because the dry so fast, I’ve been sewing them for years, because, of course, REI stopped carrying them

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