@Philreedshikes your philosophy of getting trail clothes wet and keeping a dry set of clothes for sleep/camp sounds like what I am “learning my way into”.  I’ve always made sure to have a dry set of clothes for sleep, but I have tried and tried to also stay dry while hiking.

 Question: have you completely gone without rain gear while hiking?  Or do you still have a truly water proof jacket and pant handy?  If so, what is your current waterproof jacket and pant?

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