For Car Camping with my family - I use one of the REI Kingdom tents.  Plenty of space for the family for cots and/or air mattresses.  For backpacking, I currently use the Big Agnes Tiger Wall UL2.  Great tent, except I'm 6ft2in tall and I can pretty much touch both ends of the tent.  I would classify that tent as a 1+P tent and not a 2P tent.  I'm looking for something a bit bigger for taller folks - namely from LightHeart Gear.  

How many people do YOU fit into a Kingdom Tent? What is your experience/opinion about its stability in some wind and its waterproofness in rain? 

aka "Boonerelli"


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@John 

Regarding fit - I have a 2nd-gen Kingdom 8.  I've fit my family of 5 + family dog + gear in there with a combo of a cot and air mattresses.  I've fit 3 grown men with their own cots + gear.  I've fit 2 men with cots  + gear & a chair each in there.  I'm 6ft2 and I still have an inch of headroom to spare standing up.  

Regarding wind stability - I've never had a problem even with wind.  However you MUST think about which way the wind direction is coming from when setting it up.  Like boating, you want to point the bow of the boat into the waves, and same with the Kingdom tents & wind.  You definitely do NOT want to have wind blow broadside into the tent!  Also, ALWAYS use all your extra guy-out points in windy conditions, no matter what direction it comes from.  You can't ignore that without risking serious damage to the aluminum poles.  

Regarding waterproofness in rain - Again I've never had a problem.  Bone-dry every time, even in snow.  No drips at all, unlike what I've heard about the 3rd-gen Kingdom tents.  I also use the optional footprint, which aids floor protection in durability and keeping moisture out.  Another good tip - After you setup with the rain fly, get some "camp-dry" waterproofer sealant and spray the fly with a good coating & let dry.  I usually do that once a year.  

I love this tent!  Well worth the investment.

@JeffPPeters Thanks. I understand about the prevailing wind, but what do you d if the direction shifts?

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@John Well, you can’t easily shift the direction of the tent. So the only thing you can do is guy out all the extra lines possible. 

I like MSR tents because they are durable and come with a generous warranty. I mostly use the Hubba-Hubba, but also own a Fury for winter camping. (Not sure if they even make the Fury anymore.) Broken pole? No problem - even when I told them it was my own fault. Same thing with a worn out fly; they replaced it even though it was about six years old and I was offering to pay for it.

The company is committed to keeping their equipment out of landfills.

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I started with the Saddle 2 Tarptent,  very lightweight, excellent for one, but too cramped when my daughter started backpacking with me. I purchased a Nemo Dagger 2 at the end of the season. My son uses a REI Quarter Dome SL 1, and I must say I have been impressed with its performance. He loves it, too: sturdy, easy to erect, reasonable weight. Joy

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