@hikermor    Have to disagree with you on that.  Having an integral piezo increases your system reliability for almost no weight and generally very little cost.  Piezos do wear out and stop working but you can still light the stove with a match, sparker or lighter if that happens.  In the mean time you have a more convenient stove which will likely work if you forget the lighter.   Forgetting the lighter is probably one of the most common equipment "failures".  Of course you should always bring a spare lighter in any case but... 

MSR package a number of additional features in the deluxe in addition to the piezo that make it expensive which is why the Soto Amicus with piezo is a better value for most, particularly if you like the cookset that currently essentially comes for free. 

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