@REI-JenK Please pass this question again to your buyers. (We like the REI employee vests. You can sell a different color so we don't all look like employees!) I checked out the other vests you linked to above. Neither has what I want (and as of 6/20/20 the Craghoppers is unavailable, without a suitable women's replacement.) Next time I'm in REI, I'm going to ask a store employee if I can look at the tag on her vest, and order directly from the supplier. We want lightweight, breathable, travel vests, for warm weather, with both internal and external pockets. I'd use it for hiking too, but want something just a bit more adaptable to city adventures and longer than the Savanna Trails vest.