{"id":43709,"date":"2019-02-21T08:28:26","date_gmt":"2019-02-21T16:28:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/?p=43709"},"modified":"2020-05-22T13:04:23","modified_gmt":"2020-05-22T20:04:23","slug":"skinny-skis-are-back","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/snowsports\/skinny-skis-are-back","title":{"rendered":"Skinny Skis Are Back"},"content":{"rendered":"<span class=\"cb-itemprop\" itemprop=\"reviewBody\"><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Until recently, super-wide skis were deemed an essential part of a skier\u2019s quiver, a powder-day necessity. Take <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ski<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> magazine\u2019s 2013 review of \u201c<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.skimag.com\/gear\/33-fattest-mens-skis-2013-14\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The 33 Fattest Men\u2019s Skis<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201d where one of the widest skis, the <\/span><a href=\"\/b\/liberty\/c\/skis\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Liberty<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Mutant, had a width of a whopping 149mm\u2014that\u2019s nearly the length of a six-inch sub sandwich. But over the past few years, it seems the ski industry\u2019s obsession with ultra-fat skis has waned. Established brands like <\/span><a href=\"\/b\/nordica\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Nordica<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> have since discontinued their 140mm-underfoot Jah Loves.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI think the ski industry as a whole grows and shrinks waist widths every five to 10 years. If you were to chart it out, you could watch the trends swing back and forth like a pendulum,\u201d said Christian Avery, the national product manager for <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/b\/blizzard\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Blizzard Skis<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. \u201cI think we\u2019re on a trend where we\u2019re getting back to narrower skis overall, as people are wanting to get back to really carving.\u201d \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_43713\" style=\"width: 1034px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-43713\" class=\"wp-image-43713 size-article_body\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2019\/02\/enander_o_99984.jpg?resize=1024%2C683\" alt=\"A skier on DPS Skis makes a turn on a groomer slope.\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-43713\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">DPS Skis was known for their 124mm-underfoot powder skis. Now? Their skinnier skis excel in all types of snow. (Photo Credit: Oskar Enander\/DPS)<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This year, walking the<\/span><a href=\"\/blog\/snowsports\/8-innovative-pieces-of-snowsports-gear-from-outdoor-retailer-2019\"> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Outdoor Retailer showroom floor<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, most every ski brand was pushing skis in the 80mm\u2013100mm waist range. In 2018, Atomic introduced<\/span><a href=\"\/product\/141190\/atomic-bent-chetler-100-skis-mens-20182019\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> a 100mm version<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> of its popular Bent Chetler model (20mm skinnier than what was previously available), while Blizzard recently announced that next year it would be releasing an 82mm edition of its popular<\/span><a href=\"\/product\/122579\/blizzard-brahma-skis-mens-20182019\"> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brahma<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> ski, formerly only available in an 88mm waist. So where has the girth gone?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI think the geometry &#8230; kind of erupted a few years ago, and it was an awesome time in the exploration of shapes and how far we could go,\u201d said Thomas Laakso, vice president of product at <\/span><a href=\"\/b\/dps-skis\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">DPS Skis<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, a Utah-based brand known for its wide, powder-specific boards (see their 124mm-underfoot <\/span><a href=\"\/product\/108419\/dps-skis-lotus-f124-skis-mens-20182019\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Lotus<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">). \u201cBut now, we realize, it\u2019s not purely about surface area. Now it\u2019s about having the right rocker lines, the right taper ratios, the right construction\u2014all of that has more effect on how a ski handles powder than anything else. If you look at our <\/span><a href=\"\/product\/108420\/dps-skis-wailer-f112-skis-mens-20182019\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Wailer 112<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, it can ski pow as well as a 124 underfoot ski from a few generations ago. And you can still carve it if you need to.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Talking with ski manufacturers, those sentiments were commonly echoed as to why skis seemed to be getting thinner\u2014advanced construction and shaping techniques have eliminated the need for bulky powder skis while, in many places, people are starting to fall back in love with the art of the carve.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThe majority of the time people are skiing, they\u2019re skiing on hardpack or groomed snow with occasional forays off-piste and into the deeper stuff,\u201d said Dan Chalfant, founder and CEO of<\/span><a href=\"\/b\/liberty\/c\/skis\"> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Liberty Skis<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. \u201cThe emphasis now is just on making skis that can carve and be aggressive in a wide range of conditions, which will be better for the majority of customers.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_43712\" style=\"width: 1034px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-43712\" class=\"wp-image-43712 size-article_body\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2019\/02\/Nordica_EWilliams_Vail_December2018-7467.jpg?resize=1024%2C683\" alt=\"A skier carves groomers on Nordica's mid-fat skis.\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-43712\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Whether you want to carve groomers or slay powder, Nordica has a mid-fat ski for you. (Photo Credit: Evan Williams\/Nordica)<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Another reason industry insiders point to the lack of marketing push behind huge powder skis in recent years: the weather.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cA lot of what we\u2019ve seen over the last few years has been unpredictable snow and dry cycles in December,\u201d said Sam Beck, the director of marketing for<\/span><a href=\"\/b\/nordica\"> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Nordica<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. \u201cPeople were getting caught in these dry cycles, and while a bunch of them might have bought a, say, 108mm underfoot ski a few years ago, now they\u2019re suddenly looking in that 88mm\u201393mm range, especially on the East Coast.\u201d <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In keeping with the narrower trend, Nordica announced that next season it will be introducing an 88mm waist version of its popular <\/span><a href=\"\/product\/133885\/nordica-enforcer-110-skis-mens-20182019\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Enforcer<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> model\u2014the narrowest version of the Enforcer yet, which currently comes in 115mm, 110mm, 100mm and 93mm versions. \u201cNow people are getting onto these skis really meant for carving and going, \u2018Wow, I forgot how fun these can be,\u2019\u201d Beck said.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So are fat skis totally done? Hardly. While Avery, Chalfant and others agree that we\u2019ll likely see the industry swing back in the direction of making fatter skis again in the future, they also say it\u2019s unlikely we\u2019ll see the rise of 140mm-underfoot skis again, because ultimately, there\u2019s no need for them. Ski-shaping techniques, they say, have gotten to the point where you can get skis that can carve while still ripping powder and not feel like a pair of two-by-fours strapped to your feet. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI feel like the industry has found the sweet spot, which is somewhere in the 85mm\u2013105mm underfoot range,\u201d said Josh Cohen, product manager for<\/span><a href=\"\/b\/faction\"> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Faction Skis<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. \u201cMore people ski on-piste than off-piste. Companies are tightening their belts and trying to make money, and one of the ways they\u2019re doing that is by getting rid of models that don\u2019t make money.\u201d Cohen adds, \u00a0\u201cFinancially, selling fat skis doesn\u2019t make money for brands, so brands are looking to hit that sweet spot in the middle. We all want to make great skis, but you also need to make skis that appeal to and serve the mass market.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<\/span>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Until recently, super-wide skis were deemed an essential part of a skier\u2019s quiver, a powder-day necessity. Take Ski magazine\u2019s 2013 review of \u201cThe 33 Fattest Men\u2019s Skis\u201d where one of the widest skis, the Liberty Mutant, had a width of a whopping 149mm\u2014that\u2019s nearly the length of a six-inch sub sandwich. 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