{"id":119884,"date":"2020-01-15T10:18:46","date_gmt":"2020-01-15T18:18:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/?p=119884"},"modified":"2020-01-13T10:21:03","modified_gmt":"2020-01-13T18:21:03","slug":"winter-camping-advice-we-learned-the-hard-way","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/camp\/winter-camping-advice-we-learned-the-hard-way","title":{"rendered":"Winter Camping Advice: We Learned the Hard Way"},"content":{"rendered":"<span class=\"cb-itemprop\" itemprop=\"reviewBody\"><p>Snow-covered landscapes, early nights and crisp mornings, a stillness impossible to describe\u2014if you haven\u2019t tried winter camping, you probably should. Without the swarms of mosquitoes and crowds of campers, you can experience all of the majesty of the outdoors minus the usual hassles.<\/p>\n<p>But we won\u2019t lie\u2014if you don\u2019t know what you\u2019re doing, the experience can be cramped and uncomfortable, leaving you unlikely to want to repeat it. Before giving winter camping a go this season, consider these tips from REI members and the highly active <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/groups\/334305706981512\/?ref=group_header\">Winter Camping Adventures<\/a> Facebook group about what not to do in order to make the most of your time in the great (cold and snowy) outdoors.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Double-check your gear list before you go.<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Winter camping aficionado Marian Godfrey-Sonntag, 45, realized she\u2019d forgotten the poles to her tent last January, far too late. She\u2019d just reached her camp in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.algonquinpark.on.ca\/index.php\">Algonquin Provincial Park<\/a> near Toronto, Canada, with her gear stacked on her <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/snowsports\/diy-make-your-own-pulk-sled\">pulk sled<\/a> when temps dropped to minus 13 degrees Fahrenheit. As a last resort, she and an engineer campmate devised a way to rig the tent to hang from the surrounding trees with a mishmash of rope and bungee cords\u2014the same ones they\u2019d used to fasten their camping equipment to their sleds during the trek in.<\/p>\n<p>Now, she checks her gear list twice (and her tent setup thrice), but maintains it was the best trip she\u2019s ever been on: \u201cWe laughed so much and enjoyed the weekend in a droopy tent,\u201d she says.<\/p>\n<span class=\"cb-button cb-grey cb-normal cb-center\"><a href=\"\/learn\/expert-advice\/winter-snow-camping-checklist.html\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"follow\">Plan Ahead: Winter Camping Checklist<svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" role=\"presentation\"><path d=\"M16 12a.997.997 0 0 0-.288-.702l-5.005-5.005a1 1 0 0 0-1.414 1.414L13.585 12 9.29 16.295a1 1 0 0 0 1.417 1.412l4.98-4.98A.997.997 0 0 0 16 12z\"><\/path><\/svg><\/a><\/span>\n<h3><strong>Bring a backup stove, just in case your main stove malfunctions.<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>On a frosty December day in 2018, Jared MacKay, 36, an active member of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/groups\/334305706981512\/?ref=group_header\">Winter Camping Adventures group<\/a>, took to the mountains in Frontenac Provincial Park, just north of Kingston, Ontario, Canada, for one of his first cold-weather camping trips. He left his stove at home assuming he\u2019d have a roaring fire to cook with as he did during most summer adventures (most provincial parks allow deadwood harvesting). What MacKay didn\u2019t account for was how tough it can be to differentiate between dry hardwood and wet softwood when they\u2019re both frozen stiff. The wood looked the same on the outside and even on the inside when cut, but the waterlogged softwood wouldn\u2019t burn when MacKay tried to light it.<\/p>\n<p>A few hand-numbing hours later, via trial and error, he had his fire and his food, but he\u2019ll never forget this lesson. Now he tells himself, &#8220;Two methods is one, and one is none.\u201d<\/p>\n<span class=\"cb-button cb-grey cb-normal cb-center\"><a href=\"\/learn\/expert-advice\/backpacking-stove.html\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"follow\">Plan Ahead: How to Choose a Backpacking Stove<svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" role=\"presentation\"><path d=\"M16 12a.997.997 0 0 0-.288-.702l-5.005-5.005a1 1 0 0 0-1.414 1.414L13.585 12 9.29 16.295a1 1 0 0 0 1.417 1.412l4.98-4.98A.997.997 0 0 0 16 12z\"><\/path><\/svg><\/a><\/span>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-119892\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2020\/01\/Harnois_121718_1051.jpg?resize=1024%2C614\" alt=\"A group of people in colorful outerwear hike beside a large snow-covered mountain.\" width=\"1024\" height=\"614\" \/><\/p>\n<h3><strong>Pick the right method to transport your gear.<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Fifteen years ago in the dead of winter, REI member Rob Cranfill, 64, took his brother-in-law and nephew to glamp at his cabin near Snoqualmie Pass, in the Washington Cascades. Heavy snowfall made the cabin inaccessible by car, so Cranfill strapped on his cross-country skis and his brother-in-law popped on his snowshoes for the mile-long trek in. To haul their gear and Cranfill\u2019s then 5-year-old nephew, the men loaded up a backcountry sled made for hauling. The problem? They were plowing the heavy chariot through 18 inches of fresh, fluffy snow. Cranfill\u2019s brother-in-law could only progress about 30 feet before the sled would topple over and his nephew and all their supplies would tumble out in the powder. Though the group finally made it to the cabin, it took hours.<\/p>\n<p>Cranfill\u2019s lesson? \u201cSometimes a sled isn\u2019t the best option\u2014do with less gear and carry it yourself.\u201d<\/p>\n<span class=\"cb-button cb-grey cb-normal cb-center\"><a href=\"\/learn\/expert-advice\/loading-backpack.html\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"follow\">Plan Ahead: How to Pack a Backpack<svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" role=\"presentation\"><path d=\"M16 12a.997.997 0 0 0-.288-.702l-5.005-5.005a1 1 0 0 0-1.414 1.414L13.585 12 9.29 16.295a1 1 0 0 0 1.417 1.412l4.98-4.98A.997.997 0 0 0 16 12z\"><\/path><\/svg><\/a><\/span>\n<h3><strong>Find a camping spot that\u2019s sheltered and prep your tent site by packing down the snow.<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Just prior to a snowstorm in December 2005, REI member Shawn O\u2019Neill, 41, and his friends piled into the car and headed to Lake Angeles in Olympic National Park for a winter camping extravaganza. Big, wet snowflakes were flying by the time they arrived, and they raced to set up camp before daylight ran out. They realized they\u2019d forgotten their tent stakes, so they hopped in their shelter without dinner to keep it from blowing away in the ferocious conditions.<\/p>\n<p>In the middle of the night, though, amid frigid temps and howling wind, O\u2019Neill awoke in a divot. He assumed his body heat had melted the snow beneath him, and dozed off again. When he finally got up and exited the tent the next morning, he realized the group had pitched their tent on a slight incline. Overnight the whole thing\u2014campers included\u2014had slid 10 feet down the hill!<\/p>\n<p>Now, he is meticulous about digging a flat platform for his tent. (And bringing snow stakes.)<\/p>\n<span class=\"cb-button cb-grey cb-normal cb-center\"><a href=\"\/learn\/expert-advice\/tent-set-up.html\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"follow\">Learn More: How to Pitch a Tent<svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" role=\"presentation\"><path d=\"M16 12a.997.997 0 0 0-.288-.702l-5.005-5.005a1 1 0 0 0-1.414 1.414L13.585 12 9.29 16.295a1 1 0 0 0 1.417 1.412l4.98-4.98A.997.997 0 0 0 16 12z\"><\/path><\/svg><\/a><\/span>\n<h3><strong>Use two full-length pads (one foam and one self-inflating) to keep warm on snowy surfaces.<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Some of us are craftier than others. REI member Ryan Hubbard, 24, is definitely on the innovative side. In November 2014, he headed to the Mount Pilchuck fire lookout in Washington\u2019s Cascade Range with a good friend and a single tent. Unfortunately, when they reached their destination they realized the lookout was occupied and they\u2019d both forgotten their sleeping pads, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/learn\/expert-advice\/winter-snow-camping-checklist.html\">a winter camping essential<\/a> that helps insulate campers from the freezing ground.<\/p>\n<p>Unwilling to call off their adventure, Hubbard and his friend cut branches off nearby fir trees and constructed a haphazard platform for their tent to help insulate them from the snow. Hubbard said it actually wasn\u2019t too bad of a solution, as long as he didn\u2019t think too hard about the jabs to his back all night long. Since the trip, he\u2019s learned about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/learn\/expert-advice\/leave-no-trace.html\">Leave No Trace principles<\/a> and now would never cut branches off a live tree.<\/p>\n<p>He\u2019s also learned that two sleeping pads should be the first things he throws into his car on trips into the snow.<\/p>\n<span class=\"cb-button cb-grey cb-normal cb-center\"><a href=\"\/learn\/expert-advice\/sleeping-pads.html\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"follow\">Plan Ahead: How to Choose a Sleeping Pad<svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" role=\"presentation\"><path d=\"M16 12a.997.997 0 0 0-.288-.702l-5.005-5.005a1 1 0 0 0-1.414 1.414L13.585 12 9.29 16.295a1 1 0 0 0 1.417 1.412l4.98-4.98A.997.997 0 0 0 16 12z\"><\/path><\/svg><\/a><\/span>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-119893\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2020\/01\/Harnois_121818_2574.jpg?resize=1024%2C614\" alt=\"A group of trekkers walk on an ice-covered landscape.\" width=\"1024\" height=\"614\" \/><\/p>\n<h3><strong>Pee before bed. That way, your body uses a little less energy to stay warm.\u00a0<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Nearly all her supplies froze as soon as REI member Louisa Peck, 59, set them down on the frozen ground. She was winter camping during a cold snap in November 2018, in Washington state\u2019s high alpine Spider Meadows, and though she knew it would be chilly, she didn\u2019t anticipate the intensity of the single-digit temps she encountered in her summer tent. By 5:30pm, it was simply too frigid to sit outside talking to her friends, so she turned in for the night.<\/p>\n<p>She poured boiling water into two Nalgenes and tucked them into the silk liner inside her sleeping bag to stay warm. Before bedding down, she pulled a down quilt over herself and slid two sets of hand warmers next to her skin\u2014one in her socks and another near her chest. But in the hustle of getting ready for bed, she forgot to pee.<\/p>\n<p>Thus, to her dismay, she awoke in the middle of the night needing to go. Unable to hold it and unwilling to brave the cold, she peed right into the top of her Jetboil. By morning it was frozen solid. (And she was down a stove.)<\/p>\n<p>She hasn\u2019t forgotten to pee before bed (especially on bitterly cold nights) since.<\/p>\n<span class=\"cb-button cb-grey cb-normal cb-center\"><a href=\"\/learn\/expert-advice\/hygiene-sanitation.html\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"follow\">Learn More: How to Pee in the Woods<svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" role=\"presentation\"><path d=\"M16 12a.997.997 0 0 0-.288-.702l-5.005-5.005a1 1 0 0 0-1.414 1.414L13.585 12 9.29 16.295a1 1 0 0 0 1.417 1.412l4.98-4.98A.997.997 0 0 0 16 12z\"><\/path><\/svg><\/a><\/span>\n<h3><strong>Keep your boots inside your tent and your liners and insoles inside your sleeping bag at night.<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>In February 2018, Jennifer Dickson Tooley, a Scouts Canada leader in her late 40s, was out with her troop on a cold winter night at a camp in southern Ontario. She discovered that one of her scouts was unable to put on her boots because she\u2019d left them outside her tent overnight and they were frozen solid. To make things worse, the girl\u2019s previously dry socks were damp and her feet nearly numb.<\/p>\n<p>The ensuing scene was a sight to behold. Tooley squatted in the vestibule of the girl\u2019s tent, tucked the scout\u2019s bare feet under her armpits to warm them and began whacking the girl\u2019s boots together to break off the ice. The entire time, the scout lay in the tent howling with laughter and shivering frantically.<\/p>\n<p>Before long Tooley had warmed up the scout, found her some fresh socks and stuck toe warmers in her much-less-icy shoes. The girl, now a few years older, still reminds her of the experience. In response, Tooley jokes with her saying, \u201cKeep [your] boots dry so we don&#8217;t have to retest if my armpits smell more than [your] feet.\u201d<\/p>\n<span class=\"cb-button cb-grey cb-normal cb-center\"><a href=\"\/learn\/expert-advice\/cold-weather-hiking.html\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"follow\">Learn More: Cold-Weather Hiking Tips<svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" role=\"presentation\"><path d=\"M16 12a.997.997 0 0 0-.288-.702l-5.005-5.005a1 1 0 0 0-1.414 1.414L13.585 12 9.29 16.295a1 1 0 0 0 1.417 1.412l4.98-4.98A.997.997 0 0 0 16 12z\"><\/path><\/svg><\/a><\/span>\n<h3><strong>Travel with friends\u2014but choose them wisely.<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>REI member Teresa Hagerty, 40, knew something was wrong. At first it was the giggling. Then it was the smell. She was tucked into her tent with her husband in Mount Rainier National Park on Valentine\u2019s Day in 2015. It was twenty degrees outside, but they were warm and together, alone on the mountain in one of the most romantic outdoor places in the world. But Hagerty realized she had made one massive mistake: suggesting Mexican food the night before.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMy husband is \u2026 warm, supportive, funny, intelligent, adventurous and flatulent,\u201d she wrote in a rather-funny email. \u201cI had failed to anticipate the impact of these attributes for this trip. I spent my Valentine\u2019s Day listening to him giggle before being temporarily smothered in a cloud of four-season-tent-constrained stench. It was not romantic.\u201d<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h3><strong>Read More:<\/strong><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/camp\/in-defense-of-winter-camping\">In Defense of Winter Camping<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/camp\/5-reasons-to-go-camping-in-the-winter\">5 Reasons to Go Camping in the Winter<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/learn\/expert-advice\/winter-camping.html\">Winter Camping Basics<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/learn\/expert-advice\/winter-snow-camping-checklist.html\">Winter Camping Checklist<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/span>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Snow-covered landscapes, early nights and crisp mornings, a stillness impossible to describe\u2014if you haven\u2019t tried winter camping, you probably should. Without the swarms of mosquitoes and crowds of campers, you can experience all of the majesty of the outdoors minus the usual hassles. But we won\u2019t lie\u2014if you don\u2019t know what you\u2019re doing, the experience [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":22,"featured_media":119888,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[588,727,1099,1449],"internal-tag":[],"class_list":["post-119884","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-camp","tag-camping","tag-latest-posts","tag-winter","tag-winter-camping"],"parsely":{"version":"1.1.0","canonical_url":"https:\/\/rei.com\/blog\/camp\/winter-camping-advice-we-learned-the-hard-way","smart_links":{"inbound":0,"outbound":0},"traffic_boost_suggestions_count":0,"meta":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Winter Camping Advice: We Learned the Hard Way","url":"http:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/camp\/winter-camping-advice-we-learned-the-hard-way","mainEntityOfPage":{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"http:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/camp\/winter-camping-advice-we-learned-the-hard-way"},"thumbnailUrl":"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2020\/01\/Harnois_121718_0699.jpg?resize=150%2C150","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","url":"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2020\/01\/Harnois_121718_0699.jpg?fit=2000%2C900"},"articleSection":"Camp","author":[{"@type":"Person","name":"Aer Parris-Hoshour"}],"creator":["Aer Parris-Hoshour"],"publisher":{"@type":"Organization","name":"Uncommon Path \u2013 An REI Co-op Publication","logo":""},"keywords":["camping","latest posts","winter","winter camping"],"dateCreated":"2020-01-15T18:18:46Z","datePublished":"2020-01-15T18:18:46Z","dateModified":"2020-01-15T18:18:46Z"},"rendered":"<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"wp-parsely-metadata\">{\"@context\":\"https:\\\/\\\/schema.org\",\"@type\":\"NewsArticle\",\"headline\":\"Winter Camping Advice: We Learned the Hard Way\",\"url\":\"http:\\\/\\\/www.rei.com\\\/blog\\\/camp\\\/winter-camping-advice-we-learned-the-hard-way\",\"mainEntityOfPage\":{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"http:\\\/\\\/www.rei.com\\\/blog\\\/camp\\\/winter-camping-advice-we-learned-the-hard-way\"},\"thumbnailUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.rei.com\\\/blog\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/sites\\\/4\\\/2020\\\/01\\\/Harnois_121718_0699.jpg?resize=150%2C150\",\"image\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.rei.com\\\/blog\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/sites\\\/4\\\/2020\\\/01\\\/Harnois_121718_0699.jpg?fit=2000%2C900\"},\"articleSection\":\"Camp\",\"author\":[{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"name\":\"Aer Parris-Hoshour\"}],\"creator\":[\"Aer Parris-Hoshour\"],\"publisher\":{\"@type\":\"Organization\",\"name\":\"Uncommon Path \\u2013 An REI Co-op Publication\",\"logo\":\"\"},\"keywords\":[\"camping\",\"latest posts\",\"winter\",\"winter camping\"],\"dateCreated\":\"2020-01-15T18:18:46Z\",\"datePublished\":\"2020-01-15T18:18:46Z\",\"dateModified\":\"2020-01-15T18:18:46Z\"}<\/script>","tracker_url":"https:\/\/cdn.parsely.com\/keys\/rei.com\/p.js"},"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2020\/01\/Harnois_121718_0699.jpg?fit=2000%2C900","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/119884","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/22"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=119884"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/119884\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":134954,"href":"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/119884\/revisions\/134954"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/119888"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=119884"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=119884"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=119884"},{"taxonomy":"internal-tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rei.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/internal-tag?post=119884"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}